In these meetings we are dealing with the veil that is apparently concealing the Truth, the Peace, this Happiness inherent in ourselves, and understanding what we might call "apparent separate entity," which is this constant pursuit of peace and the end of suffering. However, it is precisely this search for peace and the end of suffering that maintains the existence of this supposed entity, this illusory identity.
We cannot do as many others who simply try to ignore this illusion. You are not free from the illusion by shutting the eyes to it or saying that it is only an illusion. This "talk" or belief is not enough. If as a "person" we feel we have nothing to do, we are only deceiving ourselves about Advaita theory. If we feel like "person" and say there is nothing to be done, we are only fooling ourselves.
Nothing can be done, needs to be done, when we are free from this illusion. However, if we are still attached to this illusion, it is still quite significant; it is still very real. So, the worst of all the illusions is, while in the delusion, to believe you free from the illusion; that is, as a "person" we believe we are enlightened.
Nowadays, many people talk about end of the illusion as if there were no more illusion just because they know this subject theoretically, intellectually, because they have had some meditation experiences. They still feel they are persons, but they talk about the end of the person. Nowadays, we have many "awakened" or "enlightened" persons in the world... They are "awakened persons," "enlightened people." I have something to tell you: as long as there is the sense of "person," there is no real Enlightenment, Awakening, Realization.
This is the worst of all the illusions: being in the illusion and not seeing the illusion - this is the very work of the egoic mind, the illusory mind. I am saying that "people" do not attain enlightenment. When there is enlightenment, there is no "person." If as "person" we feel that there is nothing to be done, we are, in fact, in a worse position than the one who has never heard this teaching, because we are denying ourselves and the real way by which we could see how to release our suffering.
It is a beautiful divine game! We need to understand - not intellectually, but experimentally. We need to realize the ignorance clearly. Only then, this shadow can disappear under the light of Consciousness. This is a work of surrender, of burning the ego, of dissolution of this ego-identity, the real dissolution of this illusion. Without this, we are only in the field of belief, concepts, ideas, words, which is useless, which makes the ego more proud, vain, presumptuous, powerful, because now it has a knowledge, an intellectual certainty that others do not have.
There is nothing to be done and no one to do. This must be the result of this realization and not a belief; it must be an unshakable, experiential understanding and cannot come from external confirmation, such as a read sentence or a word heard from the other. It has to be something direct, true! It is a very simple thing, but not as simple as the egoic mind pretends to be, therefore, in this way, it is like the thief dressed up as a policeman, disguised as a policeman. Self-investigation, devotion and surrender are necessary.
Participant: Those who deceive themselves think they are living it. How do we know if there is this experience or if it is a mistake?
Master Gualberto: You cannot know this in the other, but, yes, in yourself. Never worry about whether or not you can discover this in the other. I repeat it: you have to find this out in yourself. Even because, if someone is living it and it is true for him, it does not mean that this is true for you; and if one is not living it and just says it is, but it is not true for him, it does not change anything to you at all. Here the point is to find out by yourself if It is real and at what level this is real there, in yourself. This is a matter of an intimate honesty. Only your intimacy with Reality is real to you.
Everbody can say anything or can believe they are living anything. But, the question is: and you? Are you in a real life experience or in a mistake? If you are deeply honest about it, Grace will lead you to what is true. When you stand before a true Master, you will know, for the very fact that you are true. If you are not true enough, you may still go round in circles for a while.
The direct experiential experience has the taste of Reality. If this is not experiential and direct, it is merely intellectual, and this will come out in the course of time, because there is no legitimacy, there is no truth. When the fire is real, it burns, but when it is not real, it is a matter of time for you to discover that it has neither heat nor power to burn anything. It is like a jewel that looks like gold, but when it comes to the expert's hand, it is clear it is not gold. So, become a specialist, increase your "nose." I call this honesty. So, when you increase your "nose," you become a specialist, and just by looking at the fire you see whether it is real or not, whether it has the power to burn or has not.
I mean that you have in yourself this power of not identifying with the mind and what it creates. Then, your "nose" becomes accurate. Explore any experience, thought, image, sensation or perception in this way. When we explore our experiences in this way, it becomes clearer, more obvious, that this Consciousness is that which witnesses the experience. Since, It does not get confused with this experience, It cannot be deceived by words, teachings, concepts, theories and beliefs. This is not a subject you learn from a teacher. This is not a matter of intellectual understanding.
Here, only the direct experience, not intellectual understanding, will satisfy us. When we are not mature enough, we remain in this game of words and in the search of knowledge about It. However, when maturity comes, we are no longer satisfied by words, by knowledge and by intellect. Knowledge, word and intellect are still in this dimension of the egoic mind. The Reality is beyond the mind. So, there is no way to get lost and to let yourself be fooled easily by knowledge, intellectuality and borrowed experience. We need an experiential understanding, a non-intellectual understanding.
*Originally published in Portuguese on June 30, 2017
**Transcribed from a speech on an online meeting in the evening of March 28th , 2017. Online meetings every Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 10 p.m. - . BRT (Brasília Time Zone) Download Paltalk app and Join Us!